In honour of irational.org's 10 year retrospective show, The Wonderful World of irational.org, at Dortmund's Hartware MedienKunstVerein it seemed worth fishing out a historical interview with members Rachel Baker and Heath Bunting. This took place on a sunny afternoon in St James Park, where much grass pulling and chin scratching went on. The discussion covers Rachel and Heath's artistic development, early forms of network art, their take on community art, selling out, making your own metro system and countless other gems