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Fascist Bands at Slimelight
OpenPublishing | Submitted by anthony on Tuesday, 30 October, 2007 - 15:35
Anon This text, passed on by Stewart Home from 'a guy I know from Newcastle', highlights several links between fascist organisations and musicians playing over the next two months at the Slimelight club night based in Islington, North London. In the cases of Boyd Rice (NON) and Albin Julius of Der Blutharsch both, according to this text, publicly express right wing views, associate with members of far-right organisations and dress themselves in Nazi regalia. Anyone out there with further information about these gigs or the groups involved please post here On October 31st 2007 North London club Slimelight , 7 Torrens Street, Islington EC1 www.http://www.slimelight.net plans to host a Halloween event organised by www.hinoeuma.org, a promotional venture maintained by Gaya Donadio, Who over the past decade has been jointly responsible for promoting such ‘artists’ as Death In June and Ostara mainly in the London area. The October 31st event features American group Luftwaffe. www.http://www.kalkisarmy.com/ Originating from Chicago, who have in their decade-long career collaborated with the likes of NON, DIJ and others from the Neofolk scenes. As well as writing and recording material Luftwaffe have also been pictured in military uniform with members of Death In June. Regardless of whether Luftwaffe are merely flirting with fascism or are politically committed to it, they provide a real and malignant catalyst for far right extremists to gather, network and recruit at these concerts. The idea of waging a right-wing ‘cultural’ ‘war of position’ emerged from the Italian fascist movement also responsible for many of the terrorist ‘strategy of tension’ outrages in that country during the 1970s and 1980s (including the Bologna railway station bombing in which 85 people died and 200 were injured). This cultural ‘war of position’ ideology was taken up by the faction of the fascist British National Front headed by Patrick Harrington and Richard Lawson, and a number of those belonging to the same musical circles as Luftwaffe – including Tony Wakeford, Ian Read and Freya Aswynn – were political activists in organisations (official National Front, IONA etc.) espousing this brand of ‘right-wing Gramscianism’ . The Slimelight event is headlined by Boyd Rice in his NON guise. An individual with a long and malicious history of fascist provocation and the focus of Anti-Nazi attention worldwide. Particularly alarming is that Boyd Rice, an acknowledged Social Darwinist and member of the neo-Nazi American Front organisation, has actually been given the all clear to enter the UK and perform in London as NON next week. Rice’s politics goes way beyond embracing a seriously negative and racist worldview. To quote, "As far as I am concerned, the intellect is a disease. It imposes values where none exist. Values don't exist in the world, they exist in the mind and are purely imaginary. They're completely fictional and to project them onto actual things or situations can only result in fictionalizing the world and your experience of it." http://www.boydrice.com/INTERVIEWS/FifthPath/INDEX.htm Therefore, it should not come as a surprise that Boyd Rice developed close ties to fascist philosophers; in fact he claimed himself to be a fascist in art. In 1984, Rice, along with a Holocaust denier, Keith Stimely, started the Abraxas Foundation—taking the name from Jungian philosophy—which he described as a “social Darwinist think-tank.” Abraxas hailed Malthusianism as “Nature's Eternal Fascism.” During performances, Rice has read from the racist and anti-Semitic Might Is Right, by Ragnar Redbeard. The book's forward is by Anton LaVey, its afterward by George Burdi, founder of Resistance Records and former singer of the neo-Nazi band RAHOWA (Racial Holy War). Rice has also written a controversial article "R.A.P.E (Revolt Against Penis Envy)" in which he seemingly encourages men to rape women in order to show that men have a superior status. He has, however, stated that the article was written lightly, but still says it is based on facts. Former Rice partner Lisa Crystal Carver's memoir "Drugs Are Nice" (Snowbooks, London 2006) provides an outline of the time she spent living with and financially supporting Boyd Rice. In her graphic account of their shared lives together Carver recalls how Rice was jailed for assaulting her. Carver finally concludes that Rice, is an alcoholic failure and an 'unemployed fascist'. Before and to an extent even after Carver came along, Rice depended on financial handouts from his mother. In her memoir Carver describes the fascist emblems with which her partner decorated their flat “ A giant Nazi flag is taped to the wall. Right next to the Tomorrowland Disney poster..." (page 146). Rice’s mistreatment of Carver included physically restraining her and subjecting her to regular beatings and floggings. Carver, despite her growing fear of Rice, stayed with him for the sake of their baby until, in an alcoholic rage, he smashed her head against a nightstand until she became unconscious. This led to Rice’s arrest, trial and imprisonment. Rice does not conceal his hatred of women. As revealed in this quote from Misanthrope: ‘Back to the rumours. Are you a misogynist? "Yeah." Rice nods fervently for the record. [Laughs.] "Yeah, more and more all the time." What makes you feel that way? "Just a lot of experience with women. I don't think women deserve the same rights as men. I don't think women are on an equal footing with men. I think they're totally different creatures. I think the world operated better when they had less say over how the way things went, had less control." And regarding his piece "R.A.P.E.", which is appallingly pro-rape but allegedly tongue-in-cheek: "I was poking a bit of fun, but it's like there's more than a grain of truth in everything I said in there. I think all the stuff I said was basically true. Which is why it's funny when it's funny. And it's why it upsets women, when it upsets women. Because, you know, they can't really deny most of that stuff. " "Well that's why when women start having these intellectual arguments with me I say at a certain point, "Listen, I refuse to even argue with a woman." They say, "Well, why is that?" and I say, "Because you overreact, you get all emotional, and fly into a tizzy." Rice was also close to Church of Satan founder LaVey, and rumoured to be a member of its "Council of Nine" and to have initiated others into it. Rice regularly visited convicted murderer Charles Manson (who had ordered his followers to murder actress Sharon Tate amongst others) and organized a campaign to free him. Through Manson, the group came into contact with James Mason, former member of the American Nazi Party and the National Socialist Liberation Front, currently a member of the Universal Order, which views Charles Manson as the next Hitler. Rice was also a member of the neo-Nazi American Front and was very close to its president, Bob Heick. The pair were photographed together wearing Nazi uniforms http://www.boydrice.com/gallery/friends_gallery/1980-08.html This photograph was additionally published in the book Blood in the Face: The Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations, Nazi Skinheads, and the Rise of a New White Culture by James Ridgeway. Heick was influenced by the racist National Front in 1980’s Britain. Indeed Heick’s group was unique in that it advocated a "third positionist" ideology combining both racism and a right-wing ‘cultural’ ‘war of position’. The American Front led a nationwide rally December 9, 2006, on behalf of incarcerated members of The Order, a 1980s white supremacist terrorist group. While the largest gathering occurred in southern California, several banners describing Order members as "prisoners of war" were found around Orlando and Maitland. Heick was present at an event, "8/8/88," that Rice explained "was a recapitulation of a destruction ritual that Anton LaVey performed on August 8, 1969." It was shown on Geraldo Rivera's "Satanism" special. Perhaps not coincidentally, the eighth letter of the alphabet is H, and 88 is considered by some to signify the words "Heil Hitler." Rice was interviewed in 1986 by the white supremacist leader, Tom Metzger of White Aryan Resistance. In it he was asked whether industrial music is the "beginning of an Aryan underclass movement." He is quoted as saying, "I think so. It's engendering a new will among people. That's what I'm interested in." See video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5aDHs0XuFc Also mentioned by Rice within the context of this interview is the band Above The Ruins, featuring one Tony Wakeford now of London-based Sol Invictus. A London concert Wakeford’s band gave in 2006 was according to a blog posting attended by Troy Southgate (another former National Front activist and Neo-Folk musician and more recently founder of the English Nationalist Movement and the National Revolutionary Faction; Southgate describes the latter as "a hardline revolutionary organisation based on an underground cell-structure similar to that used by both the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) and the IRA", operating on the principle of leaderless resistance. For information about the Wakedord concert attended by Southgate see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Southgate - while for more about Southgate see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Southgate . Albin Julius of Der Blutharsch http://www.derblutharsch.com/ scheduled to perform at Slimelight on Saturday November 24th has also made no secret with regards to his and Der Blutharch’s involvement in ultra-right politics. Der Blutharsch, whose members invariably perform in black clothing and military belts, was formed around Austrian Julius, whose open interests include nazi occultism. Der Blutharsch have also utilised visual signifiers linked to nazi aesthetics. For a long time, the group logo was a Sig rune, the stylised S in the SS insignia, but it has since been replaced it with the Iron Cross, a German military symbol originating from the Prussian liberation struggle against Napoleon at the beginning of the nineteenth century. After 1939, Hitler retained the Iron Cross as one of his most important Nazi military decorations and all kinds of Iron Cross-emblazoned nazi kitsch is touted for sale on Der Blutharsch's website. Julius is keen follower of the Austrian right-wing extremist, Jörg Haider. Julius has also stated that he did not regard Haider as extreme right-wing. In another interview, with the German Gothic magazine Black, he stated that he hoped that Europe would consist again of 'national states' and that there would be 'finally a halt to migration'. Albin Julius has also collaborated with Boyd Rice and Douglas Pearce (also known as Douglas P, Doug P and Douglas Peace www.deathinjune.net ) . Pearce has called Hitler "the most influential man of the century" who "shaped the world with his death and destruction." Death in June refers to the "Night of the Long Knives" in 1934, when Hitler killed Ernst Röhm and other leaders of the Sturmabteilung (SA), his opposition among the Nazis. DIJ shows have also been cancelled and shut down or suffered protest numerous times on the grounds that DIJ supports fascism. In cities including Chicago, Portland, Seattle and countries such as Germany, Switzerland and Norway, among others. In Chicago, the Metro venue cancelled a scheduled Death in June show, though it was rescheduled elsewhere (according to a promoter from American Gothic Productions, fascists did indeed attend the show). During Der Blutharsch concerts, Julius is also sometimes assisted by ex-Death in June member, Ian Read. On Death in June's CD 'Brown Book', Read sang the infamous 'Horst Wessel'-song which is outlawed Germany. During the 1980s, Read was involved in rightist circles in the UK, notably the Rune-Gilde. He is founder of the bands Sol Invictus (Black Sun) and Fire + Ice, and was member of the British nazi crank David Myatt's Order of the Nine Angles. Der Blutharsch recently released a joint album with the Italian fascist band Zetazeroalfa which belongs to 'Rock Identity Italy', a New Right music formation whose main aim is to present fascism in a 'nice' way. This is not Der Blutharsch's first joint venture: it has, in fact, previously released a collaborative album with the Italian New Right band Ain Soph which is fond of quoting the fascist mystic, Julius Evola. Albin Julius also runs the Hau Ruck! music label which has released an album 'Odessa vine ill Bello', containing Italian fascist marching songs from the time of Benito Mussolini. Julius and his band have also been subject to attention from members of the Israeli parliament. Der Blutharsch were forced to cancel a planned concert in Tel Aviv, Israel, following widespread protests and demands from members of the Knesset, that it be banned. Israeli MP, Yossi Sarid, who had asked the major of Tel Aviv and the country's justice minister, told the Jerusalem Post: It is clear why Der Blutharsch wants to perform in Israel. They want to be legitimate, have an 'Israeli passport' and then become persona grata everywhere else. Against their critics, they can then say 'Who are you to call us fascists? The survivors of the Holocaust invited us.' The cancellation of the Tel Aviv concert was only the latest: in March 2003, a concert was cancelled in Clausnitz in Germany and, in December 2003 a concert was cancelled in Chicago after protests mobilised by Searchlight supporters and Antifa-Net members in the USA. Liked this article? Support Mute by SUBSCRIBING or with a DONATION Yeah, neo-folk sucks, I prefer music
"We were there for the music…" sounds like a line of defence from a guard at Auschwitz who didn't send certain prisoners to the gas chambers because he wanted a concentration camp orchestra. And if the article above is as you claim "incorrect" what is it you are disputing? That for example Tony Wakeford was a member of the official National Front prior to its disintegration? Or that Boyd Rice acted as the public face of the fascist American Front and was interviewed on Nazi cable TV (last time I looked the latter was still up on YouTube)? This is all a matter of record. The author of the piece above has a different emphasis to me, but basically we are in agreement on the matters he raises here.. Stewart Home. Yeah, neo-folk sucks, I prefer music
So what Wakeford was a member of the NF!!We all have to atone for our Further fascist apologetics
This also demonstrates why it is pointless engaging fascists and their supporters in debate. I wrote: "Boyd Rice acted as the public face of the fascist American Front..", which gets the response "Boyd rice was never a member of the American front". I'm not interested in getting into a debate about membership which is why I wrote what I wrote and didn't use the term 'member' (this is one of the places in which I have a different emphasis to the author of the piece that kicked this off), whether or not Boyd Rice was a 'member' of the American Front he still acted as its public face by posing for press photos in the group's uniform; my own view is that antifa activists often place far too much emphasis on using membership to identity fascists, when within strands of the fascist movement there has been a shift away from the party form to notions of leaderless resistance. Likewise the faction of the NF Wakeford was a member of no longer exists, but until a few months ago (when I publicly criticized him for it) he was still selling via his website a fascist propaganda album he'd made while a National Front activist. Personally I don't go for this cretin's theological tone on the subject of Wakeford and the NF, "We all have to atone for our sins" - and the fact is there is no evidence Wakeford has actually broken with white nationalist ideology (and much evidence has emerged in the past year to suggest he is still a fascist activist). Similarly, being gay or having gay friends doesn't prove someone isn't a fascist (the leadership of the Nazi SA, as Doug "Snake Oil" Pearce endless bangs on about, was also gay). This moron then writes: “The fact that the article mentioned these gigs are used for recruitment to various right wing organizations is totally inaccurate.. " The piece (which I didn't write) actually states these events are a: "real and malignant catalyst for far right extremists to gather, network and recruit". Clearly they are of the greatest propaganda value to a fascist fringe obsessed with ideas of nationalist ‘leaderless resistance' (and the article explicitly cites this notion rather than specifying traditional fascist ‘organisations’, and to make an issue of ‘organisations’ as this twerp does is an attempt to duck rather than deal with this issue). While I'd be extremely surprised if there weren't any paid up members of fascist organisations at these events, the emphasis placed on a right-wing ‘war of position’ makes it appear to me that the author’s most immediate concern in this instance is not the traditional fascist party but an ambiance in which far-right extremism can take root. Given all this I'm not prepared to accept any of the claims made in this post without substantiation (there is none here). Was a woman attacked at the Burger Boy rally, and if so by whom? I certainly wouldn't trust the person who posted this to tell the truth about anything; in his first post he wonders if I had something to do with his girlfriend allegedly being attacked (despite the fact I wasn't even at the event), in the second he changes his story and claims two antifa attacked his girlfriend, for all I know by tomorrow night he'll be swearing on the Holy Bible that he and his girlfriend were assaulted by every last member of the British section of the International Communist Current! Further fascist apologetics
Oh come on Stewart its name calling is it!!!Did I call you a moron or even insult you No I did not!!I dont know who attacked my girlfriend it could have had something to do with you the antifa or just a plain couple of drunken goons!!! I certainly dont have to justify myself to the likes of you!If you think I'm sprouting bullshit about a girl being attacked I sugest Still pig ignorant after all these years...
First this twit tries to discredit me by suggesting I may have had something to do with his girlfriend being beaten up, and when I challenge this he writes: "Oh come on Stewart its name calling is it!!!Did I call you a moron or even insult you No I did not!!I dont know who attacked my girlfriend it could have had something to do with you the antifa or just a plain couple of drunken goons!!!" Suggesting I may be responsible for a violent assault on a woman is a lot worse than me calling this Nazi apologist a moron. Now this cretin wants to claim he was actively involved in anti-fascist activism against Skrewdriver while defending Tony Wakeford who contributed a track to the National Front benefit album "No Surrender" which also featured Skrewdirver! Still pig ignorant after all these years...
While the discussion rages, a word in your collective, possibly perforated ears. As the original compiler of the ‘offending article’. I feel I need to clarify a few facts and to reply to some of the issues raised by this debate. Firstly, the original critique actually consists of 95% quotes from easily researchable and verifiable sources online. Much of it added to the other quoted sources. Yes, the words are indeed blunt but then visual art and not poetics was always my preferred method of expression. For anyone to claim individual authorship is inaccurate (and I’m still unsure as to Stewart Home’ s accreditation in all of this - he certainly didn‘t speak to me)? The commentary remains a collective and indeed collected effort. So the quotes mentioned are not some fabricated nonsense plucked from some feverish, overactive imagination. They were sourced from either Boyd Rice’s official website, reputable hubs such as Wikipedia, Lisa Carver’s own published account and respected faculties such as the Schiller Institute. As well as established, verified long term research undertaken by both Searchlight and Antifa worldwide. Seek and ye shall find! The piece does not slander Gaya Donadio. The opening paragraph merely quotes accurate and easily available information readily accessible from her website endorsed by if not hosted by Gaya Donadio herself. Similarly there is no suggestion that Slimelight is a breeding ground for far right extremists. Having moved some time ago from the North East further south. I know this from fact as a former irregular attendee (but not on club nights promoted by Gaya). Instead the article focuses upon the Oct 31st event and the forthcoming Nov 24th concert only. However I sincerely doubt that Patrick knows the individual mindsets and prejudices of every single audience member on that evening? Agreed about the unjustifiable alleged attack on whoever on the 31st. I was not there so can’t verify either the accuracy of the claim or what provocations from whoever resulted in any overheated exchange. On a personal note and as a contributor to various anti-domestic violence and rape crisis causes this is entirely unacceptable. However everyone has a right to protest but in a peaceful and physically non-violent manner. But Is it acceptable for these artists to continue to peddle this kind of drivel either via official websites or in person? As a former insider within the nascent Neofolk scene I found much of the outlooks and associations of some of the leading lights very difficult to stomach. It’s a scene based on negativity and exploitation of abject subject matter at best and as most people are aware these visual and lyrical associations can and do offend. The violent world of Far-Right extremism did not disappear in the early 20th Century. Flirtation it may seem to some or could it be the promotion (un)consciously of negatively divergent lifestyles by using eye catching slogans and faux-military pride often manifested in artworks, lyrics and live events? An eye-opening visit to the Centotaph on Sunday may well be in order for some. I’ve since left this aesthetic fascism behind for a more contemplative rural existence but I believe that disdain is still at the centre of the Neofolk scene. True, there is also a lot of disinformation around but disinformation is also often a common thread serving as a means to divert people’s attention from other problems and to shift blame for perceived disappointments. The embracing of European mythology as an intellectual backdrop to this tedious misanthropy only acts a diversion. Religions be they mainstream or esoteric have often been used as bargaining chips and an effective method of achieving influence, power and entryism as a placebo to manipulate opinion. Music and cultural ideas are seen as a soft target for gaining funding, public exposure and leverage to infiltrate other areas of social and political influence. When an individual buys into this isolation they are actively participating in endorsing a real and growing threat. Indeed virtual and real oppression is all about the sacrifice of freedoms. Fascism is and has always been the negative desire to dominate people and institutions by force. The costs are usually high and the end result is always the same. The potential perversion and destruction of balanced and happy lives to fulfil a selfish, antiquated, violent and hostile agenda. to have done with ignorance
Thanks Josefk for posting here. Your comment clarifies a lot of the confusion that has fuelled this spat. As the person who originally posted the text to the site I'd like to further clarify a few things (though you do an excellent job). I'd recieved the text from Stewart by email and he had suggested 'circulating' it, since we regularly post reports, essays and content published elsewhere to this area of site for people to read and discuss alongside our commissioned articles, it was logical for me to post it here. At the time of posting it I didn't know the author of the text, but trusted Stewart (as a contributer to Mute) and the text looked sufficiently well researched to do this. So, to clarify futher, neither Stewart nor myself attributed the text to any author (and certainly not to Stewart himself). However, for lack of a collective or individual author, it appears some of the people commenting here made assumptions about the source of the text. I think the text is pretty clear itself about who it is attacking - Boyd Rice, Albin Julius etc. so there is not a question of it slandering Gaya Donadio, the promoters of Slimelight or the club night itself. In a phone call on tuesday 6th November I spoke with both Gaya Donadio and Patrick Leagas and agreed this was the case. Since, following a violent incident at the club on the 31st Oct (which by no means has anything to do with publication of this text) they were concerned that the text might provoke trouble at the venue, I encouraged them to make a public statement explaining Slimelight or Hinoeuma's position on the issue. The text does not incite violence in any way and I would not have posted it here if it did. I'd like to apologise josefk and any other of the authors/compilers for publishing the text without making contact with them first, (it has since been pointed out to me that it is a draft) but as it came to me with the suggestion that it was 'for circulation' I'm afraid I took this as meaning it was meant for public consumption. Nonetheless it has elicited some useful discussion and for this reason we are still happy to host it on the site as long as its author/compilers are. Anthony What a Fine Mess...
Anthony- This demographic group is not known for having the best statistics when it comes to reading & comprehension, and often do not have access to higher education, nor are they known for being in total control of their impulses & actions (see the drunk driving and alcohol-related violence statistics for the 16-30 age group). Add to this the fact that in many areas of the world people under a certain age get less harsh legal repercussions. Meaning: if the headline reads "Fascist bands (fill in the blank)" and lists band names within the first paragraph, the group most likely to do violence will scan for the artist names, and the location of the event, they are not concerned with exactly what the "fascist activities" (music? art?) may be, they only see themselves as street warriors for their cause, just as Neo Nazi Skinheads do for theirs, and they are prepared to risk imprisonment for what they see as "the greater good". They will go to the event and beat on whoever was listed in the article, because they see this as a REAL WAR. I think this is what much of this discussion is missing: the street-level fight between right & left is not just a bunch of political bickering and haughty discussion, it is REAL violence, just as you see in any other War. We are dealing with extremists here. Most antifa are also involved in Class War actions, and their anarchist ideas do not limit or bar them from committing acts of violence including beatings, bombings and so on, because they feel as if they are under a real attack, and must "defend" themselves. In battle there is no law. The second problem is that NONE OF THE ARTISTS LISTED EVER CLAIM TO BE POLITICALLY FASCIST OR PROMOTE ANY "FASCIST ACTIVITIES"!! I cannot vouch for whatever people may have in the brains which makes them create weird art. Some of these artists may wear uniforms as Fetish, some as Fashion, and others may even have deep metaphysical or occult ideas relating to the symbology they display. However, NONE of them can be proven to be recruiting for anything political, and seeing as most of the artist being labeled "Nazi" and "Fascist" here are Gay/Bisexual, Jews & other Ethnic Minorities, it seems that the confused young white antifa are still brainwashed by their childhood ideas on race, gender & sexuality: they suggest that the women, minorities, and gays involved with any of these artists must be "brainwashed" by the evil "Nazi" white man who got them to believe he isn't a Nazi when he really secretly is. Am I "Brainwashed" by the white man? The Death in June fiasco in Chicago was a prime example of how articles or leaflets/communiques falsely labeling gay & minority artists as "Nazis" sets up a perfect scene of absurdity: White Skinheads physically assaulting Blacks & Gays in the street, but these are suppose to be the 'Anti-Racist' Skinheads, right?? These "antifascists" are suppressing art, disallowing the debate against their platform by dismissing or trivializing the points of any opposition using loaded labeling, and they suggest that the "opposition" are "everywhere", "hiding among us" like a "cancer" in our society, and they are defining an identifiable group as the "enemy" based on how external appearance....Sound like any one else in history? What's a little holocaust between friends, right? http://noctigram.org/natassja The Truth and nothing but the Home truth
Dear Mr Home, so you do not believe my eye witnesses? Interesting. Are you actually calling me a liar? You know totally what happens when you "advertise" events (or help advertising them) as "fascist" bands event.... antifa thinks there is a 4th reich in the making and promptly runs to prevent such cruel acts, whether its true that there are any political actions going on or not and you carry on trying to make it look like some sort of recruiting event by continously calling it a "rally" and using analogies related to the most cruelest acts the nazis committed in the 3rd reich (which is in my book utterly respectless towards us but more so the victims by belittling the whole issue). I would personally like to know where you get your information if, as you said you were not even there to actually convince yourself that something like a "rally" was going on and you are indeed totally unrelated and unaffiliated to the people who went on to attack me. Just keep your sarcasm to yourself, I think you have said too much as it is and non of it makes you look like a gentleman or even a civilised human being. Who was I attacked by? I truely assume that it was people who read your "friend's" write up and who tried to disturb the concert. Do you really agree with violence? Boyd Rice on women and violence
Rice does not conceal his hatred of women. As revealed in this quote from Misanthrope: ‘Back to the rumours. Are you a misogynist? "Yeah." Rice nods fervently for the record. [Laughs.] "Yeah, more and more all the time." What makes you feel that way? "Just a lot of experience with women. I don't think women deserve the same rights as men. I don't think women are on an equal footing with men. I think they're totally different creatures. I think the world operated better when they had less say over how the way things went, had less control." And regarding his piece "R.A.P.E.", which is appallingly pro-rape but allegedly tongue-in-cheek: "I was poking a bit of fun, but it's like there's more than a grain of truth in everything I said in there. I think all the stuff I said was basically true. Which is why it's funny when it's funny. And it's why it upsets women, when it upsets women. Because, you know, they can't really deny most of that stuff. " "Well that's why when women start having these intellectual arguments with me I say at a certain point, "Listen, I refuse to even argue with a woman." They say, "Well, why is that?" and I say, "Because you overreact, you get all emotional, and fly into a tizzy." Quote it three times but still does not change facts
Mr Home, please it is getting silly. 3 times the same quote and still you have not made a point other than you are supporting people who beat up others for standing in the wrong place, for wearing clothes you do not approve of and for what you assume the wrong line of thought. See, Mr Home I have explained earlier that Boyd Rice has never beaten me. Nor would he wish to, as I am sure he does not even know of my existence. Now you did not know of my existence either but your actions have caused me physical pain. So please would you stop trying to mask your guilt by pointing out that somebody else might be guilty of a similar action? Please be so good and apologise. Thank you kindly. Nazi Hooligans!
Have you Nazis under your bed? Do you really stand atop your ivory tower, look down upon the U.K. and U.S.A., and conclude that our problem is that these (amazingly non-racist and non-homophobic) crypto-fascist bands are getting gigs at slimelight? Of course this isn’t the first time the antifa has done this. In December of 2003 Death in June was to play in Chicago (USA) at The Empty Bottle. The local antifa circulated a provocation much like the one posted here. This resulted in the show being cancelled and violence being done to innocent concertgoers. It is ironic that one of the concertgoers who were confronted by the (all white) antifa was a friend of mine who happens to be African-American. The antifa, it seems, has lost all credibility. Their provocations are driven more by ego than by ideology or conscience. They make trouble at random and, after the fact, they justify their actions with nebulous words, like this: “my own view is that antifa activists often place far too much emphasis on using membership to identity fascists, when within strands of the fascist movement there has been a shift away from the party form to notions of leaderless resistance.” Well, Damn those leaderless hooligans! However, that’s quite a broad brush you got there, Mr. Natural. Are there Nazis (non-political and un-affiliated) lurking under your bed? And this: “Similarly, being gay or having gay friends doesn't prove someone isn't a fascist (the leadership of the Nazi SA, as Doug "Snake Oil" Pearce endless bangs on about, was also gay).” Fascists are allowed to have homosexual friends, or even to engage in a homosexual lifestyle? Well thank you very much. I’ll inform Pat Robertson and James Dobson straight away! Not only are these hooligans leaderless, they’re homosexuals! Are the non-political, unaffiliated Nazis hanging out under your bed, also homosexual? Might they also have African-American friends? Your equivocations kind of take the teeth out of fascism (as most well-adjusted people understand the term). You are wise to save these spineless equivocations until after the violence you provoke has taken place. Our lesson should be to force you to back-peddle in this manner, before the violence you provoke does take place. The music and nothing but the music
Dear Mr Home, what exactly are you trying to say when you say "sounds like a line of defence from a guard at Auschwitz who didn't send certain prisoners to the gas chambers because he wanted a concentration camp orchestra" Are you saying a) we are nazis who keep the likes of Boyd Rice as prisoners to be spared the gas showers that we secretly own? or b) that Tony Wakeford is still a member of the National Front? or c) people cannot change their opinion on political matters in the course of their life (due to perhaps more experience) or d) ALL Neo Folk artists are nazis? or e) you cannot be a nazi first, then change your mind about it and still make similar music? thank you. Wasting time
Try answering my questions here. I do not have any interest in "researching" you or the silly things you assume about the world. I am still waiting for an apology Boyd Rice on women and violence
Rice does not conceal his hatred of women. As revealed in this quote from Misanthrope: ‘Back to the rumours. Are you a misogynist? "Yeah." Rice nods fervently for the record. [Laughs.] "Yeah, more and more all the time." What makes you feel that way? "Just a lot of experience with women. I don't think women deserve the same rights as men. I don't think women are on an equal footing with men. I think they're totally different creatures. I think the world operated better when they had less say over how the way things went, had less control." And regarding his piece "R.A.P.E.", which is appallingly pro-rape but allegedly tongue-in-cheek: "I was poking a bit of fun, but it's like there's more than a grain of truth in everything I said in there. I think all the stuff I said was basically true. Which is why it's funny when it's funny. And it's why it upsets women, when it upsets women. Because, you know, they can't really deny most of that stuff. " "Well that's why when women start having these intellectual arguments with me I say at a certain point, "Listen, I refuse to even argue with a woman." They say, "Well, why is that?" and I say, "Because you overreact, you get all emotional, and fly into a tizzy." And Another from Mr Home but still as boring as before
I am not sure why you had to quote that again? Still does not justify your action or your friend's either. Are you really so silly to believe that you could "save" a woman from being beaten up by beating her up? fascists fascists suck this one Mr Home
This was Written by Patrick Leagas in direct response to this article! mmmmm fascists fascists everywhere !!!! more like some people wish to attack the rights of expression of anyone outside their pathetic and guilt ridden little views. Come on Mr Home - you keep trying but you only convince the convinced in your little world. Well of course those who usually undertake the decision to wear any sort of uniform be that of fetish ,gay, animalistic, Nazi chic , including the odd few who adorn themselves in communist or ex communist regalia and not forgetting those gothic kids who of course have all devoured a kitten or two before attending the Slimelight may of course be offended but for the fact that they know you and your companions in pain are utter prickles non entities. Of course there are and have been those that either have in the past or still hold such views as you mention but by and large I don't really think the world you perceive exists and thank god with a little g for that. There are no recruiting grounds that I have ever been aware of at these events and even if there were, have you ever met an extreme right winger that is capable of doing anymore than making an utter fool of himself let alone taking over the country. Was it the fact that Mr Home was spurned by Douglas P. after an offer of a blowjob at one of the early Death in June concerts that he attended?So I am told , I think so indeed. As only someone with a big guilt problem or some sort sexual difficulty could keep up this tirade of nonsense. Look at Mr Hitlers friends , mostly fucked up individuals as well. So don't be ashamed ,get some help , become a priest or something ,atone for your sins Mr Home. It is possible to lead a productive life , not just spitefully trying to ruin the lives of others. Further- I am sending this link to the Slimelight management and I'm sure the staff who consist of White , Asian , Black ,Turkish etc etc etc will be very glad to find out that the Slimelight has in fact been all along the new Reichstag !!! Whilst all the time I thought it was the only and last place in the UK where young people of 'ALL' persuasions can let their expressions FREE . I am also mailing Daniel Miller of Mute /EMI with regards to your allegations. I am sure as a long time supporter of Boyd Rice and others he will be glad to know that a great Crusader has informed us all that there are many different types of people on the planet and some of them a lot more unsavoury than a bunch of lower middle class musicians who read the wrong books according to you. ( Funny you did not mention the MUTE connection) Anyway also regarding Gaya Donadio who comes form a anarcho punk background and has almost single handed been the only person who has the guts to put on shows from all the weird and wonderful artists imaginable. Perceived left wing , right wing , old hippies , spiteful hippies electro bastards with rolled up trouser legs ( should be banned) gays ( thats ok Mr Home no need to be ashamed anymore) and assortments of nasties who stick metal objects through themselves. She is seeking legal advice. Back to me . I am the one who instigated all the fascist chic with regards to the neo folk , as before I co founded the band Death in June I was banging side drums and wearing Adolf Hitler on my belt buckle. I ,however after seeking life in many areas and also political both left and right- indeed finding both as pathetic as each other, became tired of the uniforms grew up and got a life. BUT I utterly reserve the right of others to do the same . Most of them will grow out of it. For some seeking solace from the norm they may stay and become obsessed with the aesthetic. A few may be politically motivated but no more than in any other sphere of life. I notice that you never mention me in your writings - surely you can dig deeper , I assure you there is stuff to find. To finish, if anything that you ever write causes any problems at any venues or if anyone is actually hurt in the process then your little world will end swiftly. There are young kids that share these venues and I WILL make sure you pay if anyone is hurt. There is an organisation recruiting - Its called the Taliban. I met some of them when I worked in Afganstan during the late 1980's Your views would just about fit. Scum that talk about creating a state where all must be one and the outsider burns in hell. well I'm prepared to burn ! how about you? Patrick Leagas> Fascist rhetoric with all the logic of dry rot!
Patrick 'Bed Wetter' Leagas is so upset he has attributed an article to me that I didn't even write. While I agree with most of the analysis in this, the tone is not mine. The Bed Wetter's lack of familiarity of the few things I have written in this area is evident from his claim that: "I notice that you never mention me in your writings - surely you can dig deeper , I assure you there is stuff to find." Hard to know if the Bed Wetter has enough brain cells to understand the concept of the double bluff, but there are two pages on my site about so called 'neo-folk' ('finger in the ear coz they can't sing in tune' would be a more accurate description) bands and he is mentioned there. At least the piece above which I passed on at the request of its author to various people I knew in London makes verifiable claims; incidentally this was circulated as a discussion document, but among the sixteen or so individuals who got it via me were two associated with metamute and one of them decided to put it up here, and while I'm happy enough about this I wasn't consulted before it happened and would have referred him to the original author if I'd got the email he sent about it before this went up. As for the Bed Wetter's claim: "Was it the fact that Mr Home was spurned by Douglas P. after an offer of a blowjob at one of the early Death in June concerts that he attended? So I am told , I think so indeed." This explains nothing since I didn't write the piece above and the Bed Wetter's assertion is in any case an unverifiable piece of crap he's made up because like all fascists he's incapable of logical thought or rational debate. Despite his oh so proud claims about being a big boy now, the Bed Wetter has never grown up, which is why he's having a tantrum on this page. His rhetoric has all the logic of dry rot: "I am sending this link to the Slimelight management and I'm sure the staff who consist of White , Asian , Black ,Turkish etc etc etc will be very glad to find out that the Slimelight has in fact been all along the new Reichstag !!!" To state the obvious, the BNP and other neo-fascists regularly hold events in buildings run by both private businesses and public organisations that observe equal opportunities legislation, but this does not mean that the BNP is in any way anti-racist or anti-fascist. Likewise the Bed Wetter is so dim-witted he seems to be under the misapprehension that Mute Magazine and metamute are in some way connected to Mute Records (they aren't), since he writes: "Funny you did not mention the MUTE connection." Well I didn't write the piece but why would anyone make anything of this if they didn't think there was a connection? The Bed Wetter follows this with a pathetic boast about belonging to: "a bunch of lower middle class musicians who read the wrong books according to you." (You? I think that’s me!) The Bed Wetter and his moronic chums rarely read books; indeed Lard Arse Wakeford was illiterate when he left school and still has trouble with joined up writing. The Bed Wetter writes: "Gaya Donadio who comes form (sic) a anarcho punk background", as if this was some sort of anti-racist and anti-fascist credential (the founding father of anarchism P. J. Proudhon infamously wrote in his published diaries that “the Jews should be exterminated” and lets not even get into what other famous anarchists like Bakunin had to say on this subject, while scum like F. T. Marinetti were able to support Mussolini's fascist regime while still describing themselves as anarchists). And returning to Lard Arse, background proves nothing, Wakeford was a member of the Trotskyite SWP in the 1970s but that didn't stop him joining the fascist National Front in the 1980s. As for the threats the Bed Wetter ends on, they will have no more effect on me than those I received from Sol Invictus/Tursa Records earlier this year, viz: "if I see anything from you (even if you decide to change your name but the subject and the information is the same) concerning: Sol Invictus, Tony Wakeford, Renee Rosen, Richard Moult, Orchestra Noir etc, I will not hesitate to take legal actions against you till we put you behind bars... you'll not get away by law with that kind of offense (sic)... I'm going to make is to (sic) file a formal complaint to your local police department on harassment signed by all the people you mentioned on this page: http://stewarthomesociety.org/wakeford.html That would be the begining (sic) of a new life for you." But in fact months have gone by since I received these crazed ravings and my page is still up....I guess the membership of Sol Invictus are beavering away at their adult literacy classes in the hope that one day one of them will be sufficiently up to speed with their written English to file a police complaint against me (my whole body is shaking, but with laughter not terror). Stewart Home. From Patrick leagas
Again as Patrick Leagas cannot log onto this site here is his reply Dearest Mr Home , Hello my little friend, Bed wetter here! Whether or not you wish to attack by any method the music terrorists whom you believe are a threat to world peace, I do not care. They can stand up for themselves. I have no interest as I said before- in the naughty boy wearing a swastika You have made accusations against a venue organization which could in fact cost the jobs of many of the ordinary people working there- but you don’t give a shit do you! Is there really nothing else that you can put your mind to ? Some final reference to your last letter. Yes of course I realize about the non mute connection. I just wondered why you did I suggest that you just concern yourself to your normal actions but only against the ‘actual’ parties you consider to be guilty of… One final question please. What is your definition of either a Nazi Corrrr ! whats that smell …I’ve pissed all over the patio again, Christ ! Bet Wetter Leagas intellectually inert
The Bed Wetter demonstrates perfectly here why it isn't worth engaging fascists in debate. I explained that I did not write the piece above, and it is not attributed to me either, but the Bed Wetter continues with his rhetoric on this score regardless: "I just wondered why you did not also write a few paragraphs about that naughty MUTE records.." Likewise, the Bed Wetter says he 'can’t be bothered' to do more than scan through my 'letter' (what letter? I've never written him a letter, does he mean my previous posting on this page or is this him wrongly attributing the main article to me yet again?), but he still asks me: "What is your definition of either a Nazi Or a fascist? Please don’t quote – use your own initiative..." as if I hadn't written about the constantly mutating ideology of fascism at length and made it publicly accessible in both print and online: "Those involved in recent debates about Martin Heidegger and Paul De Man no longer think it strange to talk about fascist modernism. It is less fashionable to speak of anarchist integralism, despite the fact that this is no more of an oxymoron than fascist modernism. While the majority of modernists and anarchists have never adhered to full blown mystical fascism, certain strands of anarchism embrace far-Right individualism, while yet others promote ideologies of integral nationalism. It is thus not surprising that a good number of self-styled 'national revolutionaries' - i.e. fascists - have been attracted to anarchism in recent years. Such a convergence of the 'left' and right was also a feature of earlier epochs such as Russia in the 1860s or France and Italy in the 1910s. Then, as now, this 'convergence' took place on the far-Right's terms. "Within anarchism and fascism the state is fetishised from both negative and positive perspectives. This polarisation takes place within rather than between these creeds. If the Italian fascist movement was able to arrive at the altar of state worship through a combination of Mussolini's widely praised translations of Kropotkin and an engagement with anarcho-syndicalism, certain strands of the Nazi movement were able to oppose the interests of the state with those of the nation. One of the principle errors in the seemingly antagonistic positions defended by anarchists and fascists is the idea that the state is the source of all social power. During the middle ages, feudal modes of class exploitation were maintained despite weak or non-existent states. Likewise, today, capitalist social relations are anchored in economic institutions which can and do function independently of the state. Capital reproduces itself not only within nation states but across nation states." This continues for another twenty thousand words at: http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/ai.htm - I won't quote it in its entirety here, but I would refer anyone interested in serious debate - and the Bed Wetter is clearly incapable of coherent thought let alone debate - to both this and the many other related pieces to be found on my website. The Bed Wetter claims a woman was assaulted at the Boyd Rice rally. I've no idea whether or not this is true, but I do know that Boyd Rice has a conviction for a violent assault on a former female partner, and I would not be surprised to learn he has assaulted other women. Likewise the Bed Wetter claims I am a bully but he is the person issuing the thinly veiled threats; likewise a surprising number of those he has worked with in industrial and neo-folk 'groups' have convictions for assault (not just Boyd Rice). Dear Mr Home aka Mr Natural
You wrote: "The Bed Wetter claims a woman was assaulted at the Boyd Rice rally. I've no idea whether or not this is true, but I do know that Boyd Rice has a conviction for a violent assault on a former female partner, and I would not be surprised to learn he has assaulted other women. Likewise the Bed Wetter claims I am a bully but he is the person issuing the thinly veiled threats; likewise a surprising number of those he has worked with in industrial and neo-folk 'groups' have convictions for assault (not just Boyd Rice)." I have never been assaulted by anyone else but the people who willingly believe all the rubbish you seem to love to promote. Surely, Boyd Rice has said things in the past that I personally disagree with but he never hit me and neither have any of the Neofolk related bands, friends, performers, groups, uncles or aunties. I have also volunteered for a women's refuge and been involved with counselling survivors of domestic violence, rape and abuse. We all know it is a problem far wider than one part of society and while we all dream the sweet dream that such things do not happen in "our" part of society, sad fact is that it happens everywhere alike. So, to say "your music is bad and all fascist are wife beaters" is a statement that is simply untrue. Also untrue that the concert was a rally. A CONCERT! True is however, that I (a woman) got attacked. Maybe I was the ralley? Maybe I am out there to recruit supposedly? if this is what you think then please advice me how you wish to support that libelous claim. Also I would like you to directly name the surprising number of people in the Neofolk scene with convictions for assault on women because I think you are claiming this falsely as to justify the actions of your friends. And well done on the newly introduced skill of using paragraphs! Bed Wetter gets it wrong again...
I wrote: "a surprising number of those he (the Bed Wetter) has worked with in industrial and neo-folk 'groups' have convictions for assault (not just Boyd Rice)." The Bed Wetter responds: "I would like you to directly name the surprising number of people in the Neofolk scene with convictions for assault on women because I think you are claiming this falsely as to justify the actions of your friends..." I didn't specify the gender of those assaulted, which demonstrates very well how these fascist twits twist everything that is said about them to duck the issues I’ve raised. Again the Bed Wetter is using this to implicate me in an alleged assault to which I am completely unconnected. bed wetting and other nursery games
So there you are, saying how you have been wrongly treated and how Tony Wakeford could not spell. Well, if you had taken the trouble remembering what your teacher told you in school then you would know, especially if you call yourself journalist or author, that you should introduce the odd paragraph here and there in order to structure the whole tirade. Enough with the criticism school was a long time ago, lets get onto the name calling. I was the victim of the attack at the gig at slimelight, which was deemed too this or that (nazi mostly) for your friend's liking and which you admittedly "passed on" thus fully agreeing and supporting it's (poor) content, the attack was witnessed by the way. so please behave yourself and try to pretend that you are an inch above gutter level. - Thank you. As for education, one moment you attack Gaya Donadio (or your friend did but you posted it in agreement) calling an event nazi, the next moment you say that being the promoter os truely DIVERSE events does not mean she is not free from any political links, so which is true, is she as claimed just putting on nazi bands or is she indeed a promoter of post industrial and experimental groups, bands, performers? If you think she is the former then you are discrediting her officially and she could, if she chooses to do so take court action if on the other hand you think she is the latter then please apologise for being so wrong by supporting your friend's statement. So why do you not simply drop it so we can all get on with our lifes instead of having to bicker like schoolkids (you can't spell nananaaaanaa, you are a lard arse, you are a nazi, you are a bed wetter anaaanaanaaaa). About the MUTE connection. The thing is that you did indeed help to promote statements, which might be taken as slander and libelous and could in theory be followed up by MUTE records (you seemingly helped to disturb a gig of a MUTE band and I was assured it was for that reason those people had come in the first place) as you seem to think that it is a sweet game to send a few brave scouts out who then disturb concerts. Obviously, this is not a fact, it is a speculative assumption by me that the attack on me has been a direct result of your friend's statement that you promoted with the comment "I agree with most of the analysis in this". I do not know you in person, you do not know me, yet some of your action has maybe contributed to a (this time) small offence. Please would you be so kind and help a mature exchange and discussion of a serious matter, if we all went onto calling people names then I would call you "moonfaced failed existance" but I am not going to go that low. We have all got different physical traits that others could make fun of... so please could you be so good and apologise to the people you insulted so directly as I find it extremely bad mannered and rude. As for all your other self righteous writings, what is it to you if Tony Wakeford cannot spell? What is it to you if some artist cannot sing in tune? Fact of the matter is, the Reichstag is in Germany where it belongs, Slimelight is not a conspirative breeding ground for more far right groupings but merely a club which is hosted at the Electrowerkz. No fourth Reich has been proclaimed last Wednesday and I went home, still a free thinking human being with a sore knee and a pulled shoulder. So please stop putting me at risk of getting attacked by your friends. Whose sorry now?
When I challenged your boyfriend on this crap he wrote: "I dont know who attacked my girlfriend it could have had something to do with you the antifa or just a plain couple of drunken goons!!!" If you were attacked it has nothing to do with me, the claims you make are simply a smokescreen to cover the fascist involvements of those you wish to defend. Why don't you fess up and apologise to me instead? Whose sorry now?
Who said I wish to defend anyone but my own life? Did you have any reports from your friends on what had really happened? Please be good enough to at least admit that you were involved in advertising the event as something political, which it was not. Will a concert suddenly become a political event just because somebody does or used to belong to some political party? Did anyone list the tracks that were played during the event and if yes, which one were officially a political song/statement/expression? What smokescreen do I make when I say I got attacked as a result of something you advertised for a "friend from Newcastle"? Are you accusing me of being a fascist and do you think violence against fascists is okay? Is violence okay from your point of view? Boyd Rice on women and violence
Rice does not conceal his hatred of women. As revealed in this quote from Misanthrope: ‘Back to the rumours. Are you a misogynist? "Yeah." Rice nods fervently for the record. [Laughs.] "Yeah, more and more all the time." What makes you feel that way? "Just a lot of experience with women. I don't think women deserve the same rights as men. I don't think women are on an equal footing with men. I think they're totally different creatures. I think the world operated better when they had less say over how the way things went, had less control." And regarding his piece "R.A.P.E.", which is appallingly pro-rape but allegedly tongue-in-cheek: "I was poking a bit of fun, but it's like there's more than a grain of truth in everything I said in there. I think all the stuff I said was basically true. Which is why it's funny when it's funny. And it's why it upsets women, when it upsets women. Because, you know, they can't really deny most of that stuff. " "Well that's why when women start having these intellectual arguments with me I say at a certain point, "Listen, I refuse to even argue with a woman." They say, "Well, why is that?" and I say, "Because you overreact, you get all emotional, and fly into a tizzy." And you claim this happened at a Boyd Rice event
Former Rice partner Lisa Crystal Carver's memoir "Drugs Are Nice" (Snowbooks, London 2006) provides an outline of the time she spent living with and financially supporting Boyd Rice. In her graphic account of their shared lives together Carver recalls how Rice was jailed for assaulting her. Carver finally concludes that Rice, is an alcoholic failure and an 'unemployed fascist'. Rice’s mistreatment of Carver included physically restraining her and subjecting her to regular beatings and floggings. Carver, despite her growing fear of Rice, stayed with him for the sake of their baby until, in an alcoholic rage, he smashed her head against a nightstand until she became unconscious. This led to Rice’s arrest, trial and imprisonment.
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This is the most incorrect article I have read!!Totally laughable!
I was there that night there was nobody recruiting anywhere!Where do you get this info??? we where there for the music!!!Funny how you people take EVERYTHING out of context!!As for Gaya Donadio She is the only woman who without compromise puts on special events from noise artists to the damn strange she is a woman of courage and high standards!!!Its a shame as the gig was going well until a couple of hecklers decided to attack my girlfriend wonder if Mr home had anything to do with this???/